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March 09, 2001
Issue # 37

EXTREME Q&A
by Jason Meuller

 
NEW FINA KITS!!

I’ve been working with a new supplier of Finaplix conversion kits, and am happy to announce he’s ready to do business.  I’ve tested these kits myself, and found them very easy to use.  Given that many have been complaining of late about the reliability of some of the other kit sellers on the market, it’s nice to have a new source you can count on.  To place an order for these new kits, please read the following…

THESE PRODUCTS ARE FOR AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH, AND LABORATORY USE ONLY.

THEY ARE NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, AND SHOULD NOT BE USED TO VIOLATE ANY LAWS IN YOUR AREA.

These kits contain everything needed to convert your Fina pellets to a sterile 75mg/ml injectable for AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES only.

 
KITS
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KITS TO DO:           1 cartridge of Fina......$25.00
                                 
2 cartridges of Fina.....$35.00
                                  
4 cartridges of Fina.....$65.00

NOTE: 1 cartridge of Component T-H is the same as 2 cartridges of Fina so order your kits accordingly.


SHIPPING

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Shipping is done priority mail. Cost is:   $5.00 in the US.
                                                          $20.00 outside the US.


PAYMENTS
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There are 2 current methods for payment:  
                                                      
PAYPAL
CASH

**NOTE** You can open a free Paypal account by going to www.paypal.com

 ORDERS
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To place an order by Paypal: 

Transfer the correct amount to Paypal account (finakit@ziplip.com)

Then send an e-mail to finakit@ziplip.com containing the following info:

Name and Address for shipping 
your order
dollar amount transferred
 

To place a cash order: 

Wrap cash in a piece of paper, write your e-mail address on the paper, place in an envelope and send to: 

Mohawk Research
331 E. Magnolia
St. Paul, MN  55101

After mailing funds, send an e-mail to finakit@ziplip.com with the ordering info listed above.

When sending cash it’s recommended using the 35 cent confirmation of delivery offered by the post office. This way you will be sure that your payment reaches its destination.

Orders are shipped as soon as transfers are verified or cash is received.
An e-mail will be sent to you as soon as your order is shipped.

The address finakit@ziplip.com is for placing orders only, any questions or info requests should be sent to finakit@hotmail.com.

 

SHOULD I CYLE MANUFACTURERS FOR INCREASED GAINS?

Question: I wanted to write and tell you what a great publication you guys are providing.  I’ve learned more from reading AE than I ever thought possible.  Keep up the great work. Here’s my question. I hear a lot of talk about people switching brands of steroid; same drug just different manufacturers. Apparently, some top professionals swear that this helps them keep making gains…So, if I am using Brovel nandrolone at 600mg per week would switching to Ttokkyo help improve my gains?

Answer:  The answer might be yes, but not because of the reason you’re thinking.  Many bodybuilders adhere to the theory that they should cycle not only different steroids, but different brands of the same steroids.  Many times, bodybuilders will suddenly experience greater gains when they switch manufacturers of the same steroid.  For example, Joe Bodybuilder may use Brovel nandrolone decanoate for 8 weeks with good results.  He then seems to plateau and his weight won’t budge.  So Joe switches to Ttokkyo nandrolone decanoate for another 8 weeks and bursts through his plateau, gaining another 8 lbs of muscle. 

So what really happened?  Well, Joe started using a steroid from a manufacturer that produces notoriously underdosed pharmaceuticals.  But since Joe’s been clean for a long time, he still gets a response from the steroid.  While Joe may think he’s using 600 mg per week of nandrolone, he’s probably using somewhere in the range of 400 mg initially.  Joe then switches to a brand of nandrolone that’s of a very high quality, one produced by a reputable and reliable manufacturer. Now Joe really is using 600 mg per week, and the increase in drug allows him to break through his plateau and gain additional weight.

Bodybuilders are notoriously dense creatures.  You can show them scientific facts that disprove all of their foolish notions about bodybuilding pharmaceuticals and they’ll still swear that they know what they’re doing.  I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to convince someone that what they’re telling me is nothing more than bodybuilding legend only to have them walk away telling me I have no idea what I’m talking about.  Because Joe saw the results he expected, there’s probably no way I could ever convince him that some of his beliefs regarding steroid use were wrong and outdated.

For the rest of you, here’s the skinny.  As long as you’re getting quality steroids that are fully dosed, switching from one brand to another won’t make the slightest bit of difference.  The nandrolone decanoate you get from company “A” isn’t going to differ in structure from the nandrolone decanoate you get from company “B”.  Yes, one company may underdose their products, while others meet label claims, but this is an entirely separate issue.  Don’t waste your time switching from one manufacturer to another in the hopes of making continued gains, rather, buy and use quality and reputable products in the first place. 

 

I’M BIG AND MISERABLE, WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Question:   After my last cycle I got up to around 270 pounds and it sucks. I can’t walk down the stairs, I breathe like a dying whale and I get nosebleeds all the time. What gives? My blood pressure is also through the roof. What can you recommend I do?  Should I be doing more cardio, drugs, what?

Answer:  First of all, I’d like to welcome you to Extreme Bodybuilding!!  I’m sure it took you a long time to get here, and now that you’ve arrived, you’ve got some pleasant (and not so pleasant) surprises in store for you.  What do we have for our new arrival Johnny?

Well, behind door number 1, we’ve got the inability to breathe!  And behind door number 2, we’ve got nosebleeds and tachycardia!  And for our grand prize, we’ve managed to secure impotence and premature death.  Good luck to our players!

Unfortunately, many bodybuilders have to come face to face with the realization that the sport has nothing to do with health when they begin to feel that their own is compromised.  Yes, natural bodybuilding is an extremely healthy endeavor.  Yes, those of you that stay away from steroids and lift religiously 4-5 times per week are engaging in activities that will not only improve your quality of life, but lengthen it as well.  But for those of us that want to compete, and want to pack on as much lean muscle as humanly (and pharmaceutically) possible, the reality of bodybuilding is one of excess, excess that can often be detrimental to ones health.

Those of us that engage in extreme bodybuilding accept that it isn’t the healthiest of pursuits.  Having said that, it doesn’t mean that all concern for your health and well-being is thrown out the window.  You should take as many steps as possible to protect yourself against the harmful affects of weighing as much as a Silverback Gorilla. 

Your primary concern should be getting your high blood pressure under control.  Realistically, this is going to probably require that you get on some anti-hypertension meds.  Since you’re using pharmaceuticals to push your lean body mass above and beyond what you could ever achieve naturally, it will probably take pharmaceuticals to get your high blood pressure under control.  Don’t delay in taking care of this problem.  If you don’t have a regular physician, get one! 

Many extreme bodybuilders will refrain from cardiovascular work at all costs during the offseason, no matter how out of breath and uncomfortable they become.  To some extent, cardiovascular work and extreme muscular hypertrophy don’t mix.  However, I’ve found that 20 minutes of cardio per day can be very helpful in improving ones overall cardiovascular conditioning, without sacrificing much in the way of lean body mass. 

Remember, these steps are kind of like putting a band-aid on a cut that requires stitches.  As long as you’re really heavy, you’re never going to feel “comfortable”.  I fluctuate in weight from 290-310 lbs and have tried to learn to accept the fact that I’m not going to be running the Boston Marathon anytime soon.  Take as many step as you can to preserve your health while you’re in the sport.

 

WHAT ABOUT CYTADREN?

Question: What is your opinion of Cytadren, I can get it for a much better price then something like arimidex and I understand it controls both estrogen and cortisol. This sounds like a perfect drug for me. What dosages do you recommend and do you have any personal (or near to personal) experiences with this product. Also, does it need to be tapered like some people say?

Answer:  Cytadren (aminoglutethimide) attained nearly mythical status almost immediately when it was first hit the scene several years ago in bodybuilding.  I distinctly remember the excitement about cytadren, this at a time when cortisol-blocking was thought to be the final frontier in bodybuilding.  Unfortunately, many of us who bought into the cortisol hype ended up with nothing more than lighter wallets and sore joints.  Cytadren was and is not an effective muscle builder, but can be used very effectively as an antiaromatase.  But remember, when Duchaine first started discussing Cytadren, his focus was solely on its anticatabolic properties.

As far as dosing is concerned, many have advocated a two day on, two day off dosing schedule.  However, this again is designed to take advantage of Cytadren’s anticatabolic properties, which have not proven to be effective at inducing greater muscle growth.  So, daily dosing is fine, at doses of 250 mg per day being very effective at preventing the estrogenic side effects seen with steroid use.  Cytadren does not compete with estrogen at the receptor site, rather, it inhibits the armomatase enzyme, preventing excess formation of estrogen in the first place.

The only drawback to cytadren is its price, which can run upwards of $2/pill.  For most, this is prohibitively expensive, with anti-estrogens like clomid and nolvadex readily available at a much lower cost. 

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