January 12, 2001
Issue #29

EXTREME Q&A
by Jason Meuller

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I’m sure by now many of you have now seen the Barin Corporation/Rejoov banner that was recently added to the site.  And I’m sure that many of you are aware of the active ingredient inside the products manufactured by Barin Corporation, and the history behind them.  However, for those of you that aren’t, (and I know there are some of you out there), a quick explanation is in order.

Barin Corporation currently manufactures two cleaning products, Rejoov and Somax.  The active ingredient inside both of these products is an amazing chemical knows as 1,4 butanediol, also known as tetramethylene glycol.  1,4 butanediol is remarkable because not only does it clean like the dickens, but it also will convert to GHB in the body if swallowed.

It’s interesting to note that Rejoov and Somax were once sold as nutritional supplements using the exact same formulation under which they are currently sold.  Unfortunately for us, the passing of the Federal GHB legislation made it illegal to sell 1,4 butanediol as a nutritional supplement, and Barin Corporation was in a bit of a quandary.  Luckily for them, they knew that 1,4 butanediol not only converted to GHB in the body, but cleans like nobody’s business (did I say that already?).  So, the stopped selling it as a nutritional product, stuck new labels on the bottles, and went into the cleaning biz. 

So, while it may seem a bit weird that we’re running an ad for cleaning products, we here at AE know what messy people bodybuilders can be.  Always cooking, always getting oil and blood here and there, you guys know what I’m talking about.  Hey, did I mention that Rejoov and Somax were once sold as nutritional supplements?  Did I also mention that the only difference between the nutritional supplement versions and the cleaning versions are the labels?  Just trying to be thorough here folks, and seeing as how it’s late and I’m tired, I’m having a hard time remembering what I typed just a few seconds ago.  Anyway, my advice to you is to stock up on these products now, because very shortly, 1,4 butanediol will become a listed chemical like GBL.  Oh, and that’s because it converts to GHB in the body.  So, stock up on these products today and get to….ahem…cleaning.  Stuff sure does cut through grease. 

OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAS MY LIPOKINETIX GONE?

Question: I’ve noticed that lipokinetix has been marked as “NOT AVAILABLE” on both the Syntrax and Anabolic Extreme websites.  What’s going on?

Answer:  This is a result of actions taken by my favorite government agency, the FDA.  Most of you have probably heard of the 5-year Yale University study that showed a slight risk in the increase of stroke in young women using products containing phenylpropanolamine (norephedrine).  Mind you, this is ONE study, and it’s important to note that 6 billion doses of PPA are consumed in this country every year.  However, in a typical reaction, the FDA urged consumers to stop taking any products containing PPA.  Why?  Let’s examine the real motives behind the FDA’s actions.

First of all, you’re never going to read a story about phenylpropanolamine (PPA) that refers to it as norephedrine.  However, norephedrine is indeed included in this whole fiasco as it’s one of three isomers of PPA.  Now, we all know that norephedrine is an extremely effective fat burner.  And PPA is an ingredient in most OTC diet pills on the market.  Realistically, there is no bigger cash cow in either the pharmaceutical or supplement industry than diet products.  And since the FDA is nothing more than a lackey of the pharmaceutical industry, it’s no surprise to me that they’re going after PPA with a vengeance.

The FDA has always had it out for the supplement industry, which is the primary reason why DSHEA was passed.  Bottom line, pharmaceutical companies pay the bills at the FDA, though the enormous amounts of money they have to spend getting a drug through the FDA approval process.  Anytime you’ve got a dietary supplement that is taking significant amounts of money away from the pharmaceutical industry, you can almost guarantee that the FDA is going to go after it.  And what’s so hypocritical about the whole situation is that many supplements which are blasted by the FDA and taken off the market will later appear as pharmaceuticals, as in the case of GHB.  GHB will be available as a prescription sleep-aid this year, which is amazing considering that when it was sold as a dietary supplement, it was supposedly killing people in droves and responsible for sex crimes against hundreds of women.  I guess when you make something a prescription item, it suddenly becomes safer in the eyes of the FDA. 

Right now, the FDA has simply issued a consumer warning about PPA, and sent letters to manufacturers of products containing PPA, asking that they voluntarily remove it from their products.  I assure you, this is just the tip of the iceberg.  It’s the FDA’s intention to ban PPA (which of course means no norephedrine), and if they are able to do so, they’ll be going after ephedrine next.  If the FDA has its way, the only legal stimulant you’ll be able to access without a prescription is a cup of coffee.

Because of the FDA’s actions, norephedrine is becoming harder to find than a 13 year-old virgin in Tijuana.  And as such, Syntrax has had to make a tough choice.  Given that they are now only able to access a limited supply of norephedrine, they don’t have enough to continue to manufacture both apipokinetix and lipokinetix.  And since Syntrax doesn’t want to sell an inferior version of lipokinetix that doesn’t contain norephedrine, they decided to temporarily pull it from the market. 

Right now, it’s still possible to get supplies of lipokinetix, since most distributors stocked up before Syntrax stopped sales of the product.  So if you like lipokinetix, I’d go out and by some now, because in a month, it may be a little hard to find.  I’ve talked with Derek Cornelius, owner of Syntrax Innovations, about the future of the product and he’s not exactly sure what will happen at the moment.  Obviously, if he’s able to access more norephedrine, he can start manufacturing lipokinetix again.  However, if his ability to access norephedrine remains the same, he’ll probably reformulate the product so it’s just as effective using a substitute ingredient.  Remember, lipokinetix is a damn effective product because it contains usnic acid, norephedrine, diidothyronine, and yohimbine hcl, all of which are potent fat burners.  Take one of those away and it simply doesn’t work as well.  Even without norephedrine it would still probably be the most effective fat burning product on the market, but Syntrax doesn’t want to skimp on quality. 

Now is the time for us as supplement buying consumers to get off our collective asses and get involved before we wake up needing a salve back there.  If we don’t do something, norephedrine will be taken off the market, with ephedrine to follow.  Get involved and write your local congressman a letter.  Contact the FDA and inform them that you disagree with their position on PPA.  Yes, one letter won’t do a whole lot.  However, if we all take the time to voice our opinions, we will be heard! 

CLARIFICATION ON EXTREME EATING FOR MASS

Question: Hi Jason, I've recently read your article on extreme eating for mass. You say you should eat 25-30kcals per pound of the bodyweight you want to reach, right? The problem is that if I eat that much, I 'll gain tons of fat. My last cycle was sus @500mg a week for eight weeks. I've been eating 4000-4500 kcals a day( 300 gr of protein) and I went from 174lb to196lb. The problem is that almost half is fat. How can you explain it? Should I have consumed less calories?

Answer:  First of all, you have to carefully read the article.  One of the sections you refer to reads as follows: “At the elite level, athletes have been known to consume 25-30 kcal per lb of bodyweight per day.”  Notice that it says “elite level”.  Realistically, a 174 lb bodybuilder doesn’t qualify for an elite level classification.  You have to understand that while the Extreme Eating for Mass article is applicable to any steroid-using bodybuilder, the total level of caloric intake really depends on both your total lean body mass (LBM) and level of experience.  A bodybuilder who weighs a lean 260 lbs will definitely need to consume calories in the 25-30 kcal per lb of bodyweight per day range in order to make it to 285 lbs.  However, a guy your size is just going to get fat.

There are a couple of other things you should bear in mind.  First of all, if you’re going to use steroids, specifically testosterone, you might as well use at least a gram per week.  The side effects from a gram per week won’t be significantly more than those you’d see at 500 mg, but the results will be.  Taking a hefty dose of testosterone will not only help you build more muscle, but will also help ensure that those extra calories you’re eating go to increasing LBM and not gaining more fat.  One of the advantages steroid using bodybuilders have other their natural counterparts is that steroids have a nutrient portioning effect, and extra calories are more likely to be used to build LBM than going directly to that flab on your ass. 

I also would recommend that you consider using T3 during your next cycle.  Since it controls your metabolic rate, taking exogenous T3 will not only speed up the rate of protein synthesis in your body, but the rate of fat loss as well.  I firmly believe that when you significantly increase levels of one hormone in your body, you have to increase other hormones that work in synergistic combination.  I can guarantee you that a gram of testosterone a week is a helluva lot more effective when stacked with 100 mcg of T3 a day. 

NFL PLAYER WANTS TO USE STEROIDS!

Question: I am a current NFL player who is considering his first cycle of steroids.  I was considering taking test suspension, and Winstrol-V for four weeks.  I will have a month before I report to off-season workouts in March. Then random drug testing begins.  Will this stack clear my system in a month?  I heard it will, but I need to be sure.  My jobs on the line.  An advice will be appreciated.

Answer:  People often have the misconception that Winstrol (stanazolol) is a great drug to use when they’re being steroid tested because it’s water based.  However, the reality of the situation is that the metabolites of stanazolol can be detected up to 3 months after using the drug, and it’s actually a very poor choice for steroid tested athletes. 

Until recently, many NFL players have been successful in blaming their positive steroid tests on OTC dietary supplements.  About the best thing about adrostenedione is that it’s allowed a lot of athletes a way to weasel out of a positive drug test.  Unfortunately, after J.J. Johnson was able to skate on his positive steroid test by blaming it on creatine of all things, the NFL released a statement that it would no longer tolerate athletes blaming positive tests on supplements.

If I were an NFL player, I’d use a shitload of testosterone in the off-season, when testing wasn’t an issue.  As testing day grew closer, I’d switch to a short acting testosterone, like propionate or suspension, about two months out, and only use 200 mg a week a month out.  I’d also use HCG and clomid to restore natural testosterone production about two weeks before I had the possibility of being tested.  You can read the back issues of the Extreme Q&A for exact directions on how to use HCG and clomid.

During the season, I’d use an enormous amount of human growth hormone (HGH) stacked with insulin.  Since there is no test for either HGH or insulin, you can use as much as you’d like and not worry about failing a drug test.  Since you’re an NFL player, I’m sure you can afford to take 10-12 IU’s a day, which is the amount I’d recommend to someone in your position.  Stacking this with 30-40 IU’s of insulin per day will yield incredible gains in both LBM and recovery.  By following this protocol, you’ll be kicking some serious ass on the field.  Be sure and let us know how it goes next season.

HOW SHOULD I USE ANDRO SPRAY?

Question: I am planning on using Pat Arnold’s Andro Spray. I would like to know how many sprays a day should you use, and how many weeks should you be on and how long of a lay off should you take between cycles of the product?  Also, how long does it take to clear the body to pass a drug test?

[Editors note: We went straight to the horses mouth for this one, the following answer is from Pat himself.]

Answer: How many sprays you take, and how long you stay on the product, depends on your goals.  I am assuming you want maximum results while still decent endocrinological function.

Therefore I would recommend that you take around 10 sprays, twice a day.  Take your sprays preferably after you shower and dry off.  Spray over as much of the body as possible to make an even coat.

People familiar with steroids know that steroid cycles that last 6-8 weeks are long enough for full benefits to be seen, but not so long as to cause undue delays in post cycle HPTA recovery.  I recommend the same philosophy for prohormone products, including topical sprays.

Due to the fact that nor prohormone contamination of non – nor prohormone products can take place too easily, despite the most stringent quality control standards, I do not recommend drug tested athletes take any prohormone products whatsoever.  The amount of nordione or nordiol that can give a positive test might be as little as

1 microgram (one millionth of a gram).  Once again, I can't emphasize this enough, if you are subject to drug testing then do not take any prohormones period.

Androstenedione out of china has been shown to contain enough nordione in it to cause a positive test for nandrolone.  And my company makes androdiol out of androstenedione purchased from china (there is no other source), so therefore all of our androdiol might have traces of nor in it no matter what we do. 

I should also mention that I would not be surprised if some injectable testosterone preparations have enough nortestosterone contamination to be problematic to tested athletes.  Companies that manufacture both testosterone and nortestosterone products (Brovel), and that may not be poster boys for quality control (Brovel), are very suspect in my opinion.  It is way too easy to have cross contamination amongst batches, even by airborne means, that is sufficient enough to cause drug testing problems. 

Questions can be submitted to Jason Meuller via his email address, jason@anabolicextreme.com